Need Help - Solderless Method Leading to 0x51/0x52 Status

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Need Help - Solderless Method Leading to 0x51/0x52 Status

mikerotch0

Hey guys. I'm new at modding the new 838 v2's and the 9 series so i decided to try one out. I bought the TIAO solderless kit and this is what I've done/what I'm using:
TIAO solderless kit (4 resistors , pogo pins, 20cm cable, alligator clips
360 Xtractor Pro adapter (the one I use to mod 7 series)
I've cut the traces (I assume correctly) as described in the tutorial and when I boot up into BIOS, if I WANT the drive to show up, I HAVE to hold down the black and red pins onto points A and B (as shown in the tut). So know I want to dump the key and I go into JF and, while holding down the pins, press Intro Device I/O and it goes to status 0x51. I power cycle and the only statuses I get are 0x51 and 0x52.
What am I doing wrong? I've heard a lot of people saying that I might've not cut the traces deep enough and there might be continuity left...if so, how can I check with a multimeter if there IS or IS NOT continuity.
Can this be my Xtractor board? Do I have to use the TIAO DVD adapter (from DIY)?
I'm also using a SATA card but I'm using the ports on the INSIDE of the PC, as shown in the tut. I don't think that's the problem.
Please help me solve this because I would REALLY enjoy getting this drive modded

If you guys need any pics of the cuts, feel free to ask and I'll post some up to photobucket or something.
Thanks in advance.

Tutoromix

What your Status 0x52 problem means is that you were afraid of cutting the Point A trace that's close to the circular hole. Just follow the link above and cut the Point A Ground/Negative trace deeper. The Point B Positive/Power trace is fine since you were able to power the drive up using the red pogo pin.
You should try seeing if dumping the key works in DosFlash32 1.8 first. Remember to hold down both the Black cable and the Positive cable without allowing your hands to struggle too much. It must make contact with both points properly as stated by the tutorial. http://www.tiaowiki.com/forums/xbox-360-hardware-talk/how-to-read-and-dump-key/

mikerotch0

I cut point A deeper and like the picture showed. Now jungleflasher won't even recognize the drive ???
Did I do something wrong, and if so, can i fix it?
I tried Dosflash but all it gives me is the 0x51 status over and over.

Tutoromix

Before launching Dosflash32.exe make sure you hold down on both points (Negative/Positive). If one cable is not touching the points directly, it will say keep saying Status 0x52. Don't mix up the color-coded cables and the points that it must touch.
Try cutting Point A/B deeper. But keep trying to get Status 0x72 before cutting them again. Maybe one resistor slipped out of of the ground/black wire?
The key to getting Status 0x72 is in the ground/black wire for the Point A trace. Make sure it touches the correct point on the drive's PCB. Of course the positive/red wire still needs to be inserted into Point B for its power source.
I would make sure the black wire and the alligator clip can cause a LED to light up to test if a path is flowing. You can do this with a multimeter. Connect the red cable from the multimeter to the needle, and the black cable from the multimeter to the black alligator clip. Turn the knob to the (buzzer) icon and if it beeps or if there is a resistance value, then there is continuity (a complete circuit). The black alligator clip is able to travel through the black wire, the resistor, and to the needle if the multimeter beeps.

mikerotch0

I've recut the point A traces and jungleflasher STILL won't see the drive.
DosFlash keeps giving me a 0x51 status. I have no idea what's wrong, and I'm getting frustrated. I've been working on this drive for 10 days now...
My multimeter has no audio so I set it to the continuity setting and the alligator clip to the black pin measured about 0.25-0.43 (ohms I'm assuming)
I've tried ALL resistors and NOTHING seems to work....did I overcut the point A trace? Did I miscut something?

Tutoromix

You need to be able to at least see the drive.
Before you turn on the computer, keep holding the red pogo cable at Point B shown in the bottom picture. (Should be easy work for your hands). Turn on computer at the same time. Does it detect your drive during POST/BIOS/CMOS?
Try cutting the traces deeper until you can see the inner core of the PCB as shown in the top picture (don't leave any green behind, cut it deep so you can actually see the "cut color"). Don't cut way too deep, though. Last time I did this, there was this pink stuff coming out from the traces I cut (it looked like a pink or white wire/surface. Don't forgot to blow away the dirt when you are cutting it deeper.

mikerotch0

I used to be able to recognize it with the red pin in BIOS, but now BIOS won't even recognize it. I'm just afraid I broke the drive ???

Tutoromix

Recheck your CK3 alligator clips, DVD SATA cable, and pogo pin cable connections, then restart the computer with the red pogo cable inserted into the right trace point (Point B). Make sure the molex/CK3 DVD drive power cable are inserted in the right way.
Also make sure the CK3 is turned on and lit with the power switch set to the ON position before restarting.
Does POST/CMOS/BIOS detect the drive now? I guess you need not to do anymore cutting. Don't rejoin the traces until you dump the key first.

mikerotch0

Ok. So now it powers up in BIOS when the red pin is attached but jungleflasher doesn't recognize it AT ALL and Dosflash give me 0x51....GOD!

Tutoromix

DosFlash must be used first before using JungleFlasher.
Since it is now detected in the BIOS, all you have to do now is to keep holding down the red/black wires onto Point A and Point B before launching DosFlash. Remember to check your connectivity before doing so.
Also check to make sure Point A/B are cut fully. Every single inch of the cuts must be easily visible with your eyes as I said before. Try cutting Point B in a straight-down deep manner as well as Point A. Try your best to not cut the pad off. Keep trying to get Status 0x72 in DosFlash before doing any more deeper cutting. Check your connectivity before launching DosFlash. Try using a 20ohm resistor instead.

mikerotch0

Ok. Well i've decided to give up. I'm not gonna spend another 3 weeks on someone else's xbox. I CAN'T get the key no matter how hard I try, so that's it.
Now I want to rejoin the cuts and give this drive back to the owner.
I've put some conductive glue on both cuts and I waited a few hours. After the glue was dry I plugged it into the console but the drive does not power up. What is wrong NOW?!

Tutoromix

What operating system you have when you were about to dump it? There are DosFlash 64-bit/32-bit editions in the .rar file.
The silver glue part is a tricky step, depending on how you cut the traces (good/bad). The rejoining must be done properly without shorting the circuit, assuming the dark-green lines on the PCB are still capable of being rejoined by the silver glue.
Don't rejoin the traces yet, keep trying to get the key first. Wipe off the silver glue and/or recut the PCB again for another attempt.