TUMPA TTL Connections to fix Harddrive

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TUMPA TTL Connections to fix Harddrive

pcfr33k

I want to connect this to my hard drive RX/TX/Gnd connector. Is it straight connections from the TTL on TUMPA to the 3 pins on the hard drive? No need for RS232 on Tumpa correct? The TUMPA will be connected via USB with WIndows XP or WIndows 7 TUMPA driver. I will use Hyper Terminal.
I wanted to use TUMPA in MAC OSX 10.5.8 and Mountain Lion but not sure if there is driver support for this?
Is there anything else I need to know before making the connections? The rest I suppose I have to figure out unless there is a tutorial around the forum on this?
Thanks
EDITED SHORT WHILE AGO:
Basically I am trying to do this fix to my hard drive without going through making the connector they show. I bought jumpers with TUMPA.
https://sites.google.com/site/seagatefix/
EDITED AGAIN:
I have made connections successfully. Unfortunately the seagate terminal commands are not the same for the Toshiba Laptop Hard drive.
If anyone has any experience with this or a link please enlighten me.
CTRL +z give me a an ASCII character 0 with a line through it.
Thanks for taking the time to read my post and to do your best to answer it and also hope someday this post will becomes useful to someone who is trying to achieve the same thing as myself.
Thanks again!!

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Please see: http://www.tiaowiki.com/w/TIAO_USB_Multi_Protocol_Adapter_User%27s_Manual#Serial_RS232.2FTTL_level_Selection_Jumper

pcfr33k

That was the very first thing I did. I moved all the jumpers over to enable TTL!!
Was I suppose to only move some of them? I still get a ASCII Character 0 with a line through the Zero when I give the command CTRL +z.

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You're right, all the jumpers. Please make sure you use correct baud-rate & correct serial port settings.
Attach the power supply's SATA power connector to the hard drive. (hard drive needs power for its board.) Turn on power to the RS232-to-TTL adapter and the hard drive.
You probably will need to power on the power supply (press your PC's power button?) to power the SATA Hard-drive.
If you are still having problem after checking these, you may be using wrong pins for TX/RX, try switching TX/RX

pcfr33k

volkan-k wrote: You're right, all the jumpers. Please make sure you use correct baud-rate & correct serial port settings.
Attach the power supply's SATA power connector to the hard drive. (hard drive needs power for its board.) Turn on power to the RS232-to-TTL adapter and the hard drive.
You probably will need to power on the power supply (press your PC's power button?) to power the SATA Hard-drive.
If you are still having problem after checking these, you may be using wrong pins for TX/RX, try switching TX/RX

Thanks for the tips. Its looking like something is connected wrong or something is not setup correctly on the Tumpa hardware.
I am using a good Seagate drive to test. I am getting no command prompt from my first post link.
What about the other jumpers on the TIAO. Buffer_EN, VT-Sel, AUTO PWRDOWN. I left these to default from factory.
Is there a simple test I can do on the TIAO to make sure its working?
I read in the link if you use a different power source for the hard drive it has to share to ground with the RS232/TTL device. Well I am using an adapter that powers the hard drive. Not one from the PC. Then I plug the USB into the Laptop for the TIAO to power up.
I tried connecting the ground from the TIAO and power source for the hard drive ground together and that made no difference.

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Make sure all Jumpers short middle row (SELECT)and bottom row (TTL-OUT): enable TTL level serial output. (thus TTL Level Serial Connector enabled). Then its setup correctly on the TUMPA.
Use the TTL Level Serial Connector: http://www.tiaowiki.com/w/TIAO_USB_Multi_Protocol_Adapter_User%27s_Manual#TTL_Level_Serial_Connector

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pcfr33k wrote: Is there a simple test I can do on the TIAO to make sure its working?

1) Driver installation
Make sure that the TUMPA is connected to your USB port, and the driver is installed correctly (USB Serial Converter Driver); otherwise, please reinstall the driver (refer to user manual for details).
2) Loopback Test

Short TX and RX on the TTL pinout of the TUMPA, Connect the TUMPA to your PC's USB port.
Run the terminal emulator software on your computer.
Select "ASCII" for both the Send and Receive data formats. Then send command and/or string such as "test" from the terminal software. You should receive an echo of the command/string sent ("test"). By performing a simple loopback test like this, you can test both the transmitter and receiver of the converter. This is very helpful when you are in doubt about the performance of your converter.

pcfr33k

Already tested that a while ago and Loopback passed fine. I also was successful in communicating and backing up my CFE file with a Wireless Modem.
It starting to look like something incompatible with the TIAO TTL mode with Seagate Hard drive or just something wrong with the PCB board IC communication with TIAO.
Still working on this issue.

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pcfr33k wrote: Already tested that a while ago and Loopback passed fine. I also was successful in communicating and backing up my CFE file with a Wireless Modem.
It starting to look like something incompatible with the TIAO TTL mode with Seagate Hard drive or just something wrong with the PCB board IC communication with TIAO.
Still working on this issue.

I'm glad to hear that your TUMPA works OK.
Good luck with the hard-drive. There is no mode for TTL communication AFAIK. You could try different baud-rates because sometimes devices may operate in a different baud-rate than the one written in the user manual/guide.

pcfr33k

I think this unit is defective. I could never get ttl to work. Only loopback at first.
I went to power it up today to try and backup my Boot-loader from a Tablet via TTL and there is no communication.
Loopback no longer works.
I sent an email over to DIYGADGET. I purchased it back on in January 2012.

pcfr33k

TTL connector Pin # 9 should read 3.3 volts
TTL connector Pin # 10 should read +5 volts (USB Power)
I measured with a Fluke 87 V True RMS Multimeter
#9 = 3.275
#10 = 4.671
TTL # 1 Pin Tx = 3.266
TTL # 2 Pin Rx = 0.079
The FTDI chip is getting hot and I think to hot. There is this weird kinda rumbling going on when you place your finder on top of the chip.
I know this same feel from the past when I was working on an old vintage synthesizer an Oberheim OBX. There was an OpAmp chip that was getting hot causing many problems. When I placed my finger on top of the chip I could feel this rumbling type feel and it was getting real hot. Same thing with the FTDI chip. Maybe not the chip but onboard voltage/current driver? That area is hot to. The FTDI chip may be ok and possibly the Voltage Regulator or something in the circuit to the upper right of the chip because it is hot there to.
Loopback connection between Pin # 1 and Pin #2. Nothing. I do not see any characters in hyperterminal or Putty.
I have a couple USB/TTL and RS232/TTL adapters and I do get Loopback read no problems. So there is no problem with my PC/USB or any software I am using.

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Did you do soldering job on TUMPA? Did you short some pins that you shouldn't have?
1) You should NOT solder, but use Flexible Jumper Cable Wires. 2) Do not short TTL pins other than TX/RX for loopback test.
Do NOT short pins unless you know what you are doing - shorting can easily blow the output gates on chips
If you believe that the TUMPA is defective, then please contact your seller,

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pcfr33k wrote: TTL connector Pin # 9 should read 3.3 volts
TTL connector Pin # 10 should read +5 volts (USB Power)
I measured with a Fluke 87 V True RMS Multimeter
#9 = 3.275
#10 = 4.671
TTL # 1 Pin Tx = 3.266
TTL # 2 Pin Rx = 0.079
The FTDI chip is getting hot and I think to hot. There is this weird kinda rumbling going on when you place your finder on top of the chip.
I know this same feel from the past when I was working on an old vintage synthesizer an Oberheim OBX. There was an OpAmp chip that was getting hot causing many problems. When I placed my finger on top of the chip I could feel this rumbling type feel and it was getting real hot. Same thing with the FTDI chip. Maybe not the chip but onboard voltage/current driver? That area is hot to. The FTDI chip may be ok and possibly the Voltage Regulator or something in the circuit to the upper right of the chip because it is hot there to.
Loopback connection between Pin # 1 and Pin #2. Nothing. I do not see any characters in hyperterminal or Putty.
I have a couple USB/TTL and RS232/TTL adapters and I do get Loopback read no problems. So there is no problem with my PC/USB or any software I am using.

IMO All power values seems OKay (±%10)
Is MAX3243 chip getting hot? If so, please check Serial RS232/TTL level Selection Jumper and make sure you configured it right.

pcfr33k

I would never solder anything on the tumpa ever. I did a loopback by jumping wire from pin1 to pin 2 as this is a routine test. Never shorted any connector whatsoever!! Never jumped any other connector, only the the Rx/Tx with cable wire accessory for TUMPA bought from DIYGADGET.
I did try the Auto_Pwr and made no difference. None of the other chips get even warm just the FTDI chip. Every RS232/TTL pin is jumping for TTL.
I believe this device was defective from the start and I did not start using it until 8 months after shipment.

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pcfr33k wrote: I believe this device was defective from the start and I did not start using it until 8 months after shipment.

OKay, I'm not employee of TIAO Corp. But I believe Mike will do the necessary action if it was defective.